Meeting notes from our Community Gatherings

MetaGame Community Gathering 01/01/2021

Attendees:

heterotic, Jord, Misanth, Peth, Yalor, mPrime, PlayWith.Eth, Spielley, Davidhq, DefileZebra (DZ)

Quick-ish Summary:

  • Scribe was late and missed the first 15 minutes, sorry.
  • Heterotic won a grant to build something for BZZ. Congrats!

Discussion:

  • Yalor
    • How is Metagame membership going?
      • Membership remains exclusive
      • Responses to “why do you want to join?” help filter out responses such as “…I like xDai”
      • Maybe we cultivate a MyMeta collab with Gitcoin?
    • Gitcoin kernel scholarship
  • Heterotic
    • Did a whole bunch of blue screen clips on meta 41 newsletter, will share
    • Won a grant
    • DZ asked “So what is semantic tagging?”
      • In ML idea is to teach computer what speech is
        • Tag words as nouns, verbs, etc.
        • To teach computer to know is take text with other words and put them through ML ingest.
        • A specific word may be categorized as a noun in one place and verb in another (“Gerund”).
        • Computer learns to make a prediction, is this a noun or a verb?
      • Teaching AI to derive meaning from statistics of text/tags.
      • Good news is that we are already doing semantic tagging
    • Heterotic previously built a Google Map for Greyhawk with 390 nodes
    • Looked at Ocean protocol a little
      • Get data out of ocean protocol into the visualizer

My connection dropped :frowning:

  • Spielley
    • Back for the first time in 6 months, been busy coding since July
    • In the final stretch and hope to launch Alchemics(sp?) in January
      • Borrow against stable coins
        • Asset generates yield and pays off loan
  • Davidhq
    • Was back and working on profile setup but lost his work with error profile already exists
      • This could be an issue for others and someone else might just move on and not bother reporting
      • Will either share in issues and ideas or report a github issue
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MetaGame Community Gathering 01/08/2021

  • Scribe: defileZebra (DZ)
  • Attendees: Misanth, Peth, Blake, heterotic, mprime, Drew, penguin, TheLoneRonin (TLR), Kyle Stargarden.ai, futch420, Yexzu.eth, krokodil, MaxProfit, koH, The Great Nope, b0gie|yexzu.eth

Quick-ish Summary:

  • We had some discussion about producing food, inequity such as the gender pay gap, and rewriting the law with AI and ML.
  • There is a critical need to work on gas consumption reduction associated with minting given the price of gas today.
  • Still wanting to build a BZZ SRC bridge to Seed (using EIP 1155) hit up Heterotic if you have a clever suggestion about using storage space, you like to build bridges, or might be able to help with translation.

Discussion:

  • DZ
    • Starting a day job on 1/22 and will take a 2-week break from 1/22 to 2/5 for training. Expect to be available for meetings on lunch break starting 2/8.
    • Will report back asap if there are any issues that would prevent 2/8 return
  • Drew
    • Working on Metafactory roadmap stuff
    • Preparing for the move to western slope CO
      • Permaculture orchard plus vineyard
      • Tasting room/fruit stand?
    • Web3 governance plus agriculture to create a Community farming network?
      • Dreams of building out dedicated guild around permaculture and food networks
  • TLR
    • We haven’t seen this much wealth inequality since the French Revolution
    • As value of crypto grows, we may see more buying of a piece of Example_Country and create a place to be.
  • Penguin
    • “BaseX “ or “Xbase”
      • Buying an Island
  • Drew
    • SeaSteading is similar in concept but has more logistical challenges than building a city
  • Heterotic
  • Kyle
    • Excited for more opensource AI being published from universities
    • Currently working on concept for educational system designed to increase human capital
      • Recording a zoom session and apply AI to create a transcript of conversation.
      • Avoid redundancy in validating or appraising effort
      • Leading predictions of job loss may be a faster crisis for humanity than climate change?
        • 26% of jobs predicted by 2030
      • Wants to build a decentralized and scalable way to focus human capital
      • Springboard as an example
        • If you qualify for “free” class when they place you into a job they take a very heavy slice of pay (30-40%?)
  • Futch420
    • Corporate labor force was expanded in the not distant past with the addition of women. Women are more affected by Covid and the gender pay gap exasperates this.
    • Domestic labor has been undercompensated
    • Laws created to make it harder for sex workers to earn money
  • TLR
    • The way we as a society measure value seems to be a taboo topic
  • Heterotic
    • Homeostasis and balance has been disturbed
    • Municipal eco resiliency project
      • Permaculture in urban settings
    • Who among us has food sovereignty?
      • Crickets
  • TLR asked Heterotic to expand
    • Consider, what is a solid homeostatic turnover rate in the metagame?
      • Answering this question would resolve onboarding and ownership frictions
      • Maintenance of the population within a defined set of nodes
    • Saw a lecture at UC Boulder in ‘93 on the nature of the exponential function
      • In the 1950s it was possible to calculate Gaussian function on petrol consumption
      • Prognosis was that between 2020 and 2030 nation-states would have to control strategic reserves and confine them to the use of the military
      • Actually, a Gaussian function
  • TLR asked Heterotic to expand on “Vertigo” as an important aspect of play
  • Yexzu.eth
    • Excited to finish the video
  • koH
    • Saw the metaverse through yexzu and maxprofit
  • Heterotic asked for clarification on Runway Security role
    • Runway Security if for those working to onboard more patrons
    • Landing crew is the navigator- helping new players figure out what they want to do to contribute
  • DZ inquired about the Treasury
    • How much of the Treasury would the 3 eth minting swallowed
      • Peth estimated ~50 eth, so that would have been 6% to mint
      • Will instead mint and disperse
  • Consensus: We really need a second layer solution
  • Someone (didn’t catch who) mentioned Ever Finance
    • They want to reduce uniswap congestion by putting it on airweave
  • TLR
    • Bridges to Uniswap to Solana?
  • Heterotic
    • Still needs a BZZ SRC bridge to Seed
    • Has a meeting with dev about BZZ grant on 1/29
    • Please reach out ASAP with any suggestions or creative ideas how to use this storage.
    • ERC-1155 is the bridge
    • SRC and ERC bridge is being worked on but has what may be Kanji characters and having issues with translation
  • koH recently helped Yexzu.eth get ENS name setup
  • Shit talking commences, jokes, laughs, good times. Join us next time.

Something like this: forum.tezosagora.org/t/request-for-comment-on-tzip-12-fa2-a-multi-asset-interface-for-tezos/1737 ? or…

S1W6 Community Gathering

6pm CET
22/01/2021 Scribe- Gnomeski

Contributors: Peth, Cryptic1,
MD, Bagholder McFomoIII, Balsrech, Nemo, Tommy, Tommy (2), Eric,
MLIBTY, Metadremer, Heterotic.

Quick-ish Summary:

(Following first time. Down
the Rabbit Hole, created and organised by @mprime. Subject - Chaos
Magick, AMA with Gnomeski)

  • We heard about some of the related backgrounds of some Fam members, well worth checking out when headhunting for your projects or hitting up for their skills and/or knowledge.
  • Definition of Founder and League based Perks as well as Patron perks is an ongoing issue to be clarified further. Awareness raised of this to move forward with.
  • Importance of more clarity required around communications between workgroups, and regarding accountability for lapsed commitments was introduced. To be explored further to aid efficiency of MG projects.
  • Thanks to all who attended.

Agenda:

  • People Introductions. General chat about issues and ideas, Founder perks, Patron Role.

Cryptic 1

  • Cryptic first discovered Crypto through being in energy industry and how much power was being used for mining. Looked into it more and found Ethereum. Worked with partners around Texas to check out security tokens. Found MG via Discord RNG and Friends with Benefits.

    Link to RNG discord https://discord.gg/wGnXcEygDc

MD

  • Rng really cool with many OGs who have loads of useful knowledge about game design and mechanics of use for MG.

BaGHDLDR

  • Fascinated that MG exists and glad to have found it. Got into Crypto after long time in China. Been doing mining. Interested in what Drew was saying about Lucid dreaming anchoring methods. Wants to follow up with Gnomeski about seeds of intent.

Balresch

  • German guy got into Crypto in 2018 and ever since. Works with Santiment. Doing tech support work. Generalist, magpie for new topics. Love gamification and excited. Friend of Nemo.

Nemo

  • From Balkans lots of time in Crypto doing on chain data analysis on blockchain. Lately in lots of investments. Looking to help out with Github issues. Currently doing NFTs on proof of experience systems with some friends.

Tommy

  • Part of APY vision who provide liquidity. But they have poor tools to analyse what they doing. Tommy is doing this now. Found MG via Raidguild. They are hiring engineers if anyone is up for that ask Tommy.

Eric

  • Studying computer science. Recently started newsletter, learning having fun and part of some hackathons. Wanting to be involved and learn at the same timme.
  • Peth - directing Eric to builders guild.

MLIBTY

  • Got into crypto 2018 via DADA NFTs and other digital art is of interest. Building crypto parcels at mo on MG? Follow up.

Peth - Founder perks
Link in
Townhall to dump Pls
people please
give Feedback
on the
Document as
comments/suggestions.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NilAytHZV_ZTNp6O03M5skz21K3JIS0YDdPQBUBpwwU/edit?usp=sharing

Tommy(2!)

  • Found MG through 1hive and Bloom. In Costa Rica organising off chain intentional community works by Sociocracy. Interested in using crypto space for developing this. Doing stuff with Giveth at the moment.

Peth

  • Great people doing phase 3 stuff.
  • MD Really into potential for Sociocracy and important to look more at this. Sourcecred looking At this very thing.

Nemo

  • Problem between How much is too much chasing people vs supporting people. Boundaries around communications to discuss more in future.

Peth

  • How to work with me on MyMeta where you can specify how much you are happy to be pursued, hassled or whatever as guide to follow up boundaries etc.

Nemo

  • Important to look at what responsibility means. Holding people accountable for commitments they have made.

Peth

  • We should include maybe in onboarding. Tommy to do a talk on Sociocracy next week in Rabit Hole slot of Community Gathering.

MD

  • Expectation setting people still in hierarchical mode from outer world. Likes tasks coming from bottom up. People empowered to push things forward for themselves and just check in it is cool with others. Promote autonomy, self starting etc
  • Nemo
    • Agree no hierarchy but if community makes processes just for streamlining development. But good to move ahead at good speed. Planning to raise a topic to explore this as an issue to develop.

MD

  • Big problem is how hectic stuff is so much info. Info overload. Be good to have more specific teams co-ordinating actions. But we wanna minimise the number of edges. Some people could have role for ensuring communications between workgroups so people can focus more specifically on tasks rather than trying to always take in the whole of MG. (scribes note- Major role for this?)

Heterotic

  • I been throwing round lots of emojis. Raid emoji is being used to alert to raid like suggestions, or fulfilments. Use this as a request emoji for quests and project organising. To signify recognition of work being done which is towards Raid completions. Useful to use emojis specifically so they speak to others symbolically, enhance signal quality.

Nemo

  • Time to make space for structuring in a non corporate but useful way. Organise in next 10 days.

Peth

Next
Wedneday 7pm CET meeting about Governance and organisation.

To do = Organise meeting for dot voting
on Patron perks.

Discussion:

  • Need to get further feedback on what Founder and League perks can be, what do people want them to be?
  • Organisational optimisation in ways that are non hierarchical but still improve efficiency. Boundaries around communications related to accountability over unfulfilled commitments to be discussed further. Meeting was set.
  • To explore more – Sociocracy.
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Organisation Meeting 27/01/2021 7pm CET

Scribe: Gnomeski

Contributors:Peth, Nemo, Misanth, Heterotic (Het),

Penguin, Hammad, Avalon, Cosmic, Gnomeski

Quick-ish Summary:

  • Need for Project management needs to be met by better systems of co-ordination, accountability, blocker identification and removal, weekly check ins by Champions. Interaction between Shepherds and Champions as key infrastructure. Fractalising of organisation into more focused work groups proposed as proven more effective and scaleable system to emulate. Zenhub proposed as a better tool for now. Possible development with Metamaps may help overall visualisation by the end of the season.
  • Meeting with newer members highlights the current difficulty of finding where to apply themselves; again enforcing the requirement for higher organisational capabilities to increase capture and utility of everyone’s potential.

Agenda: Today we are discussing organisational

efficiency in MetaGame moving forward.

Discussion

Nemo

  • Hard to keep up with all the Github issues. Some other cases where there it is unclear who is working on what, some things not getting done. Working out timeframes based on abailitiea and availability.
  • Blockers in coding etc not being flagged up very well. A place to track all these things. We currently have Notion to try and track but it is not all there.
  • Maybe everyone could use Github management tool.
  • Use a task board. Between Shepherds and Champs work out time frame.
  • Weekly see what progress is and what is blocking.
  • Reasoning is this can make better performance.

Peth

  • Gellee has installed Zenhub may help.

MD

  • Zenhub good. Also enables difficulties of tasks and is more proper project management tool, only works well if someone is keeping it on track organising it etc. Especially as this is different to a company due to fluctuating availability of people and changing people working on projects.
  • Can work in a fractalised way rather than just 1 big thing so it more projet sprecific as is less info overload. More focused. Eg Metamaps team there should be weekly updates and calls for keeping on track.

Het

  • This is very focused on Github where not everything is. Important to have GH tools that are specific. In terms of adding apps. Is there a way to extend existing operating system. Our system can be a way of project managing in itself. Such as in an rpg you have a map as to where to go for quests etc. This is one of the purposes of Metamaps.

Penguin

  • As MD was saying separating into work groups is really helpful. Maybe teams of 5 and then an overall Project manager to bring all these things together. Bit like using post it notes. We need to use this ‘getting tickets done’ system, hit groups. Super efficient.

Nemo

  • Agree with all of this. Reason talking about GH due to talking about project management systems for building with Peth in DMs. Does not matter tho which side people are working on. We develop an effective structure it can be applied everywhere. Say I am Mymeta Shepherd. I can go to Champ find what’s going on, who is doing what and do weekly check ins etc. Good place to start at east. In other guilds things may be different so we need to pay attention to those also.

Het

  • Justifying iterations. Looking at Silo effect with vids and Annalese as an example.

Nemo

  • Proposes making a structure to work from to begin with to get going with things, but must go.

Peth

  • Specifically invited Nemo to help with tech side specifically as there are some others to manage other things.

Het

  • We are gonna need logistics support and agile development. We need a unified way to view these things. Metamaps needs to provide that functionality. Interim lets go ahead with Zendesks or whatever as we build our own thing.

MD

  • Unifying layer is Sourcecred. As MG grows and we get beyond 150 it will fractalise with many splinter cells. There needs to be some autonomy for these groups as it will get beyond constant mangeability.

Peth

  • We need to find help for newcomers and those who have been here a while but are stuck

Het

  • I see what you mean about Sourcecred as being unifying layer.
  • Goal with Metamask is to have our own unifier, it will be a good visualiser. If we integrate quests and raids as nodes on this visualiser it could be great project management tool among other things. The more we use Sourcecred as thing increase in complexity the less we understand our own value system so that’s the value of having our own system.

MD

  • SourceCred starting creditor design sprint soon and so end Feb should have strong prototype for it. So we working on micro plugins for eg Scribing, see who was there and award XP as an example. Eth addresses are not in SC so that’s an issue at the moment the current system is hacky. IDX is now on testnet.
  • link from townhall dump https://ceramicstudio.github.io/web-playground/
  • Once eth addresses are fixed we can removed address book and go straight to MyMeta and that incorporates this stuff then.

Het

  • Is this all thru 3 ID connect not bright ID?

MD

  • I frame UI pop up allows you to connect wallets, platforms multi connectable.

Penguin

  • 3ID is a set of api made by 3box for ceramic(edited) And data storage

  • MD So your 3ID is separate. Unique identifier for IDX. Allows you to create a link to different accounts

Hammad

  • Newcomers looking to work on stuff. Bunch of questions.

Avalon

  • I am a digi marketer and new to Web3. Digi marketing related.

MD - Writers guild.

Avalon

  • So am trying to find out how to see where the writing is happening, writers guilld just seeing things like some poems etc How to become involved is uynclear.

Peth - Is general chats about writing, acts like a base for the
writers.

MD

  • So we have this idea of Channel leads. It puts commitment on them and can be hard to leave or how does it happen? Does not make sense to have person stuck in that for a long time. So maybe do time bound thing.

Het

  • Camps are for like aligning interests
  • I recently did a thing about propaganda in Artists guild about that but there could be a role for writers there for example.

Gnomeski

  • Yeah as someone interested in writing I hear you. Seems currently the Writers Guild is like a place to put self forward in general. Difficulty of knowing where the work is. Often people running certain quests will be doing there own writing on it so there is not like a definite role for writers. Keeping in touch with new developments in chats can be a way to see openings. Quests and raids on Notion can act as a map of projects to pursue to find if they need writers.

Avalon - Good to hear the lay of the land.

MD

  • Ask not what you can do for MG but what MG can do for you…
  • Needs to be self directed to some extent as to where you can fit in. Is pretty permissionless in some ways. You could say write an article we did not know we needed but it works well for example.

Avalon. - Who can I speak to for about content creation.

MD

  • Peth is writing Newsletter. Wiki is another place. Notion is another place Misanth could be good to chat to.

Cosmic

  • I am new and still trying to work it out!

MD

  • Me too still after a year! Lol

Cosmic

  • Familiarising with GH and understand what is happening there.

Peth - Check out builder guides.

MD

  • Link to project board for MyMeta that is better organised with a list of issues.

https://github.com/MetaFam/TheGame/projects/1

  • Alec is working on App draw. You could set up Bright ID if you want. Plan to make a newcomer builder channel. Actually just use builders guild.

Peth

Plan - send people to Builders Guild to get them oriented.
Specifics about building.

Cosmic

  • So far what is built is more of a cultural framework is that right? How is it a game?

MD

  • MetaGame is real life.
  • There are game environments though which we want to take off discord into a game environment. Some amazing people could get involved from Webverse. So like you could walk around into guilds, plant Seed for real in Liquidity Garden etc. Create real world value while doing this.

Stopping scribing… 1 hr up and talk left Organisation specifics.

Overview:

Currently systems need upgrading is agreed by all. Specifics for
the ultimate system are open ended and will no doubt evolve many
times. Seems Nemo initial system is a good place to start with a
strong emphasis on fractalised development for the future to
implement scalable solutions that aid specific foci for workgroups,
as different tentacles of the overall system. Visualisation tools in
general whether Sourcecred, Metamaps or both systems are essential
still for the overall picture. There is a general consensus that
organisational systems can be used in a minimally hierarchical way
to improve the productivity and harmony of Metagame.

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Better On-boarding Meeting 28/01/2021 10:30pm CET

Scribe: Sparrow

Contributors: ApeironCreations, Bagholder McFomo III, d3centr0z (d3c), heterotic (Het), kyle stargarden.ai, peth, Scott Wilson, Sparrow, Uranus, wonfiddy.eth

Quick-ish Summary:

Discussion of the items from this analysis of the current on-boarding system:

Discussion:

#1 Rabbit hole is deep. Things are overwhelming.

  • Peth: Vetting process. Not really there for MetaGame, kind of on purpose. If you don’t deliver, you don’t earn XP / SEED, so it is a self-enforcing system.
  • Het: Vetting would make it feel like a conventional job. The rabbit hole is the vetting process.
  • Sparrow: Effort required should weed people out organically.
  • Het: Something in between what we have now and setting up a formal system. Future staking for raids will also mitigate. Player limit is sufficient to remove most risk.
  • Peth: Pay attention to getting players from different backgrounds.
  • Peth: Find better way of recruiting devs from web 2.
  • Het: Different kinds of people, different needs, need different pathways - proto pathways are already there
  • Het: Metamaps can map links between funnels for progression. Important for game balance.
  • Kyle: tracking player paths may be useful

#2 Definition of seed for the uninitiated

  • Kyle: no definition on landing page
  • Peth: perhaps should be on some other page, but purposefully ambiguous
  • Kyle: make the point that the people who create value are the ones who receive it
  • Peth: tokenized value
  • Het: avoiding mentioning seed to devs straight away gets the ‘right’ kind of devs; patron path does talk about seeds (obviously) - things need to be separated into their own page & links set up, though for better on-boarding flow.

#3 Landing Page / First Impressions

  • Kyle: Some colourful info, sort of sales like, the scope of what we’re doing & why people should be excited about it. Tricky, because we don’t want to say ‘hey if you want to make money, come work on this project’
  • Het: agreed with suggestion for a testimonials section on the page.
  • Sparrow: Highlight diversity
  • Peth: like the 14 reasons why I like MetaGame
  • Kyle: We’re a lot of cool things, we should convey that
  • Kyle: Make a team photo - maybe like the one in photoshop tennis?
  • Uranus: The way that is presented is important.
  • Het: SC data could be used to map … or a pop up of their MyMeta card
  • D3c: Are we talking about attracting? Or are we talking about retention.
  • Peth: Retention

#4-6 abstractions, already covered (Het) in the interest of time, we skip so we can be sure to get through most pressing / low hanging fruit.

#7 Adding role process to typeform

  • Peth: Role selection will be part of the MyMeta profile creation, which will be used to apply.
  • Peth: there is an issue for this, just need implementing
  • Uranus: This will help because there isn’t one single flow

#8 set-eth-address (going away) / in general flow on Discord
See The Metarrhizal Network

  • Het: Pinned messages and descriptions
  • Uranus: High level doc created, listed on Notion, ready for someone to do the re-org
  • Het: MD mentioned ceramic integration IDX, perhaps this superceed this?
  • Het: this will remove #set-eth-address and automate some of this
  • Peth: sourcecred will integrate ETH addresses

#10 discord chaos

  • Het: the game is accessed through the app drawer, notion, discord, etc. will be accessed from there

  • Kyle: roles restricting information, fine-tuning the #signpost channel, no info overload in this channel

  • Uranus: Metarrhizal Network could be of use there

  • Peth: still need another place for links to notion, forum

  • Kyle: make signpost easier to find

  • Uranus: add signs as you go up levels, would be really nice

  • d3c: do we know the churn rate?

  • Het: how many are in The Fallen?

  • Kyle: inkeepers are much much more valuable that originally realised. We can filter info & do all this stuff, but the real solution needs to be a quest for personal onboarding

  • d3c: someone to follow up, maybe an internship

  • Uranus: MetaBuddy, Guardian card in tarot as an additional role on top of other role

  • Het: RPG have prestige class, built off what skills you develop, ways to move laterally across classes

  • Het: Also ties in with MetaQuests, as this gives us information, let’s us help player progression

  • Kyle: we’ve added a lot more roles, use roles as a way of self-identification - perhaps a problem that contributes to overload

  • Sparrow: People don’t know the consequences of selecting roles, this should be made clear

  • Uranus: perhaps delay selecting until after ‘initiation’? Separate skills from role selection

  • Het: each of us create a story for ourselves about our paths

  • Kyle: avoid choice overload

  • Het: 4 base classes: social, raider/builder, artist, rogue - presented as choices as first, then refine later

  • Bagholder: talking about info overload, I selected Mayor, because I wanted an overview of everything, some sort of unification. Knowing what’s being worked on and understanding the priorities

  • Kyle: Mayor is a varient of Rogue

  • Uranus: seeing everything doesn’t help if you don’t have someone to explain it to you

  • Peth: one of the reasons there are all of the roles is that it allows people to see what kinds of roles are valuable to us

  • Kyle: roles act as communication channels, tagging roles

  • Het: request for Kyle to review MetaQuest, and SEED mini quest which is good for onboarding, MetaSkillz standard (links to these and more in Townhall dump … Discord tutorial (How to Meta)

  • Uranus: text based RPG (props to Penguins), conversation explained everything, really simple, really effective

  • Peth: build out Notion, move into onboarding bot when ready.
    {ed. note: Notion now has ‘warm up quests’]

Kyle needs to DJ, meeting wrap up :partying_face: Hope the party was rockin’!!

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MetaGame Community Gathering 2/5/2021

  • Scribe: defileZebra ( DZ )

  • Attendees: Misanth, Kyle Stargarden, peth, mprime, sparrow, Drew H, Metadreamer ( MD ), heterotic, Davor, Mlibty, CarlB, Bau, Scottrepreneur, taekitz, TheLoneRonin ( TLR ), Dysbulic, L-KH

Quick-ish Summary:

  • So much excitement for lucid dreaming that we discussed for nearly the whole hour.
  • Taekitz is serious about the open offer to mentor the social engineer that was impersonating peth don’t need your eth

Discussion:

  • Mprime shares that our agenda today at ~15 after we will use 15 minutes for Drew and Hamad to discuss lucid dreaming.
  • Update from Peth on Alignment , our face-to-face gathering to build together for 4 weeks
    • Plan is to convene 3 weeks before season 3 launch which would be roughly middle to late May
    • Setting a date continues to prove challenging due to the pandemic
    • Maybe we should consider Season 4 launch instead, which would be roughly September
      • Heterotic shared that the Travel industry is expected to be impacted for as much as the next 7 years.
      • Sparrow suggests that September may offer the most likely shot at becoming reality as it would fit nicely between Summer relaxation of restrictions and next Winter’s potential to see restrictions tighten up again.
    • MD wants to do some VR chat/meetup in the interim
    • Metafest came up and some discussion around venue determination
      • Would Gathertown be reasonable for something like this?
      • Heterotic has an affinity for imbedding jitsi into everything, but namely interspace
      • When is Metafest?
        • Was initially suggested at 2 weeks before season 2 launch, but is still ultimately to be determined at this time
      • MD : if we want to use Gathertown we will need to muster our artists to help create content for the space.
      • Someone suggested we consider using Minecraft
  • Swarm hackathon Monday (liberate data platform) will be on Gathertown
    • (Someone, possibly mprime?) Shared that Gathertown is a closed source commercialization of the Chaos computer club’s “ Work Adventure ” which in the past had supported as many as 20k participants.
    • MD : Gathertown is not open source
  • Now lets talk Lucid Dreaming!
    • Discussion lead by Drew and MD
    • In the interest of full disclosure, Drew does not consider himself more than amateur with interest in researching this topic because he finds it fascinating
    • What lead Drew down this path? During his first year of college was a enthusiastic psychonaut. Began to recognizing states of consciousness. He wanted to dig deeper into some “cheat codes” for reality.
    • For MD , he was digging around to explore the need for humans to sleep, shortly after high school
    • Focused breathing as a technique
    • Drew was exposed to some similarities between dreams and DMT
    • MD : One thing that he got out of it was freedom. Being unafraid of consequences. Revealed that nothing stopping you but you, actually. Creating a self-imposed mental prison or sorts but that one can work towards architecting their own reality. Realize that “real life” is a lot like a hallucination.
    • Drew shared that when you recognize you are dreaming and you become lucid, it can be very exhausting. Not necessarily a restful sleep.
    • DZ asked about heavy cannabis users dreaming less
      • Taking breaks from cannabis can certainly increase vividness of dreams
      • Drew: Does not feel prevented from dreaming, but may be harder to connect and recall dreams.
      • First step is to improve dream recall
        • Start keeping a journal and write down recollections
      • Next, try to figure out how to recognize you are in a dream
      • Melatonin can be helpful
      • Drew mentioned a product called Pure Sleep by Clif High.
        • check out his work on linguistics. He created web bot.
    • Dream is a chemical experience exerting small amounts of DMT
    • Psilocybin is close relative to DMT
    • MD : Not trying to take control of dreams and views that as a life lesson. Less control you try to exert the better things will seem. Go with the flow. Let fate take its way. It can be liberating to know that you don’t need to have all the answers.
    • MD : Dreams are all just a chemical hallucination and always has been.
    • Kyle asked: Have you had any experience with lucid dream after meditating? Drew has experienced this once. Kyle’s most profound lucid dream was after meditation.
    • Biggest problem with learning to lucid dream is waking yourself up with excitement
    • MD and Drew had a discussion about lucid dreaming and without any direct discussion on the matter Peth was also discussing the same topic. Strange coincidence and what if there was some sort of psychic connection or energy exchanged.
  • DZ asked whether it was actual Peth or imitation Peth and derailed the conversation about dreams while we talked about the recent incidents of a Peth imitator soliciting crypto from other players.
    • As a sidenote and just to clearly reiterate: “Peth don’t need your eth”
    • We talked about Karma
    • Peth imitator is playing finite versus infinite game
    • Positive sum and negative sum games
    • Taekitz seriously wants to mentor scammer if they dare accept his offer
      • Promise not to dox the scammer if they accept
      • Give the scammer an option to learn to focus their skill towards doing good instead of just simply preying on others.
  • Kindness and happiness
    • Working towards the benefit those living around you makes you happy.
    • Talked about how Bob Marley never locked his doors.
      • Didn’t see it as creating opportunity for theft. If someone wants something, they will just take it, maybe they need the stolen thing more than Bob Marley did.
    • An effective way to increase base happiness to help others.
      • This is in fact a selfish act to increase your own happiness.
    • Someone brought up some research that found (approximately paraphrased here:) that the happiness of spending $1 on someone else makes you 10x happier than a dollar spent on yourself.
  • Are there any lucid dreaming questions, has anyone had an awakening they wish to share?
    • TLR - does not record dreams but is really into dream moods.
      • TLR doesn’t lucid dream, but remembers parts of dreams. Recently had a dream that car was stolen. Could be a sign of having somehow been stripped of identity, or maybe just disgruntled with the status quo. Dream moods can offer different interpretations for the same thing.
    • Drew shared that dreaming of losing teeth if often interpreted as a sign of financial trouble.
  • Meeting ran over and the scribe had to drop at minute 67.
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MetaGame Gathering 2/7/2021

  • Scribe: defileZebra ( DZ )

  • Attendees: Sandy_Magical, Gnomeski, Heidi, Heterotic, Misanth, Sparrow, Dysbulic, Avalon, D3centr0z, Peth, Neo Preacher, Tommy, WhyIdWander

Quick-ish Summary:

  • Recent events highlight the urgent need to declare what behaviors will not be tolerated and come up with a plan to address posts that are not reflective of the inclusive environment we wish to create.
  • Consensus was that we need more active moderation within discord, but this is much bigger than a one-person role.

Discussion:

  • We need to onboard more diverse players and foster an inclusive and welcoming environment for everyone.
  • Gnomeski submits the following text in #townhall-dump as a suggestion and conversation opener:
    • Possible Addition to the Guidelines?
      • Welcome Newcomer and Congratulations on having found your way to our home. We all like a laugh, often of a slightly darker shade. Metagame is pushing boundaries for all and wants free thinkers that are aligned. We are all about inclusivity and the only people we do not tolerate are the intolerant! Prejudices, sexist material and the like are not met with silence or acceptance, this is an advance warning. We have an Executioner!
      • There are 2 Channels available for people to explore ideas that may not go down well in polite, yet funky society, where you can fill your boots. They are Taboo and Sex Channels in the Discord server. In all other Channels and in the Discourse Forum lets preserve the precious and fun, progressive revolution that is the Metagame Community for all.
      • Vision, Unity, Action and Respect…
      • NOW GO GET EM TIGER!
  • DZ is not caught up on text channels so Uranus gave a rundown of recent events:
    • There was some arguably inappropriate posting. Others noticed silence. Assumption was made that not addressing the post was tantamount to condoning its content. There was some direct messaging to the original poster, but nothing addressed publicly.
    • Uranus responded and thought it quieted down but saw another, notably articulate, justification of the behavior
    • There was backlash about censorship
    • Uranus feels its important to shine light on any behavior that leads down a dark path.
    • There was a motion to create a safe space to allow NSFW content/expression and new channels were recently created
    • This issue has created a significant distraction but there is a need to act swiftly
  • Heterotic
    • In permaculture, shit happens. We need a place to put the shit. Ideally, we would not shit where we eat.
    • We as a collective do not have the professional expertise to deal with some of the crazy shit that has come up.
    • Feels that we have been co-opted into a culture war and is not a fan.
  • Sparrow
    • When something like this happens in the future, lets decide what we will do so it doesn’t create such disruption.
    • Are we sure that as a group that we do want to include more women?
      • Is this a resolved goal? – “Yes” says Peth.
  • Peth
    • It is a stated goal to expand diversity and there is a quest to bring in people with unique backgrounds. Peth is interested in suggestions on how to further articulate and clarify.
  • Uranus
    • Item 1 on agenda is making the space balanced and clear what we are about here
  • Sandy
    • What is the profile that this group has attracted and why do you think they are attracted?
    • Peth: Initially we heavily attracted people in crypto space. Seem to have picked up some token pump/4chan crowd along the way recently.
  • Neo Preacher
    • Not here to defend personal views or make people think like me
    • Permaculture is what attracted them to Metagame
    • Always been weird but open minded and really values people
  • Uranus
    • Really important to establish that this isn’t a witch hunt.
    • How we deal with inappropriate posts needs to be sorted out and declared
  • Heidi
    • What are the limits of free speech here?
    • Is there something we can agree on that is so counterproductive that it doesn’t require community pushback and can be codified as a rule?
  • Dysbulic
    • Feels like we are drawing a line when there has only been one single infraction
  • Sparrow
    • The image was one time, yes and was acknowledged in an earlier thread. However, in all of the text-based content there have been other occurrences and nothing was said.
  • Dysbulic
    • Negative state feedback- suggests ignore it
  • Sparrow
    • This wasn’t a one off. When other statements have been made about women nothing was said, but it took an image to have this discussion.
    • Concerned about the underlying tone. It’s not overt, it’s not all the time, but it goes unchallenged.
  • Possibly Peth or Uranus? I missed the speaker here:
    • We have framework…let’s not delete posts but we need to be able to move things where they need to go.
  • Heterotic
    • Has shit that she wants to accomplish with MG tech like planning a society based on respect for space.
    • The issue is about what you do in our space
    • Mentioned being repeatedly misgendered by other players and is tired of correcting errors at this point.
  • Uranus
    • Is there per channel moderation in discord?
    • Are we going to moderate and how?
  • Gnomeski
    • Pointed out that a “Judge” role has a massive conflict of interest if they are acting as both a prosecutor and a judge.
  • Consensus established that moderation needs to happen, the question is how.
    • Uranus proposes that certain people have permission to move posts
    • First send a DM to the original poster and encourage them to move the post to a more appropriate channel
    • At that point, if they refuse or fail to respond take a screenshot of post and delete it. Move screenshot to the appropriate channel.
  • Dysbulic
    • Suggests that a bot would be more effective or even using emoji as an impromptu voting mechanism
  • Heterotic
    • The game is the space we create
    • Take Mentorship more seriously
  • Sparrow
  • Heterotic
    • Who is in charge of the discord space?
    • Peth shared that Diamond level players have moderator permission in discord
  • Sparrow
    • Let’s start documenting who is involved on which projects/channels
  • Sandy
    • Joining us today for the first time after being invited by Kyle.
    • Had some technical challenges and couldn’t hear our first ~20 minutes
    • https://www.sandylevey.com/
    • Sandy is a life coach with decades of experience and specialization in teaching clearing to groups or organizations
    • Will invite some other talented people to metagame that might be able to help us
    • “Never upset for the reason I think” - in my own upset there is usually something deeper at the core of it. In order to clear you must own you own upset.
  • Gnomeski
    • On language and owning your own issues and feelings with “I” statements.
    • The structure of communication can alleviate the game of ping pong that often results
  • Sandy
    • Is extremely careful with self-talk
    • never language anything that isn’t desirable
    • if not hopeful then you have something to clear. This can be a lot about what you say, but just as important is what you think.
  • At this point I had to drop, but Uranus may append any further notable information that I missed.
  • Not sure if the call was still going or not, but Avalon shared this timely newsletter about creating digital spaces that are welcome to everyone : https://newpublic.substack.com/p/-how-do-we-make-our-digital-public

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MetaGame Community Gathering 2/12/2021

  • Scribe: defileZebra ( DZ )

  • Attendees: Misanth, sparrow, mprime, Dysbulic, hameedb.eth, penguin, Regenesis2020, Tommy, , Peth, Metaverde, Kyle Stargarden, Tien, GeleeRoyale, blairv, WhyIdWander, karmaticacid, L-KH, Pacobac, Bagholdermcfomo, Carl B, Indigo, Magenta, MLIBTY, Danibelle, Gnomeski, TheLoneRonin, mZ, Taekikz, Tonga

Quick-ish Summary:

  • Tokenomics and Sociocracy on the ground in Costa Rica. Big thanks to Tommy, Tien, and Regeneis2020 for sharing with us your world. Sorry to our Permaculture enthusiasts if you missed out!
  • As our guest speakers wrapped up, we continued to explore the social aspect of Metagame. A day later and I am glad to see action, a plan, and progress towards closure.

Discussion:

  • Recording: Penguin will record? GeleeRoyale is already rolling.
  • Tommy, introduces: Regenesis2020 and Tien who will be sharing today. They are co-council members living on the land in Costa Rica.
    • Share how blending tech and Tokenomics with on-ground projects
    • What got you into this and background?
      • Regenesis2020
        • Studied Socio-biology- who is happy and well? and why?
        • Seems that humans that live in villages do best.
          • Both Intentional and natural villages
        • Found permaculture and sociocracy
      • Tien
        • Started 8 businesses
        • Macro-economic financial planner
        • Started writing book about solving 12 root problems
          • Planting trees
        • Left USA 2 years ago
      • “La Diamante Bridge Collective” (aka LDBC throughout the rest of this doc)
    • Regenesis2020
      • Making decisions through Sociocracy
      • 25 kbps fiber in jungle
      • Local U and enviro club
        • Fizzled out but then brought it to valley
      • Sociocracy 3.0 and all
        • Open source
      • Many volunteers so progress can feel slow at times
      • Divided land project and bridge collective
        • A cell that has divided
        • Membrane
        • Edge is where the action is
    • Tien
      • Working groups etc.
      • Slow but in a spiritual way
      • Volunteer velocity allows them to be better
      • Bamboo circle- bamboo is a beautiful source of so many things
        • find, harvest, dry/treat, design. build
      • Sociocratic circles allow the un-objectionable ones to rise up
      • 3-4 months ago, scavenged some bamboo and are now building first structure
    • Tommy,
      • Tokenomics introduction
      • Sent some people to bamboo building immersion in another community node and brought skills back to the group.
      • They are currently figuring out: how do we properly track participation and what does on ground SourceCred look like if you aren’t checking in on discord server?
    • Regenesis2020
      • Regenerative farming enthusiast
      • 18 yrs of regenerative aggro-forestry
      • Centropic agriculture from Brazil- bio intensive
        • Plant seeds directly into ground and avoid nursery so deep roots
      • Low to the ground, mid canopy and taller
      • Cicadas are out and make a sound bath
      • Working with the plants daily
      • 60 species of stingless bees in Costa Rica
      • Many local native plants
      • Joy of working with the land is the best bliss
    • Tien
      • Welcome in a great amount of diversity
      • Eco villages may have popped up in places without the best soil
      • LDBC - wave of collectives have arisen
    • DefileZebra asked: How many people do you have currently and how many can you support?
      • Was just 4 people full time 4 months ago
      • Just recently they asked who intends to be here 100% and dedicate their time
        • ~20+ raised hands so 20-25 ppl
        • As for the specific capacity of land? It is calculated that they could support as many as 52 people before it strains the land
      • Welcome and find the right fit for however many show up for this army
    • Penguin asks the important question: Is there enough food?
      • Currently have sufficient stocks in perennial greens without a greenhouse
    • Sparrow asks about community composition
      • Eco villages in EU have run into frictions because of intergenerationally
        • Aging population of founders
        • Accepting families
      • What is your overall composition and has there been any planning for families with small children?
        • Yes. Regenesis2020 has 16-month-old
          • As many as 8 children bouncing around
          • They have several local elders with 15+ years
          • Work parties 2 days a week but on the land 4-5 days typically
    • Metadreamer asks about Sociocracy: how is that working out?
      • Metadreamer noted that MG likely needs more structure and guidelines
      • (didn’t catch who responded, maybe Regenesis2020?) A: Required a lot of dedication and it is notably slow in the beginning
        • Decentralizes the power into the hands of most affected and most invested parties
        • Advises that each circle and meeting should have clear purpose/driver/agenda
        • Facilitators are critical to help keep everyone on task because time is precious and they unite and amplify energy
      • Tien says more on challenges:
        • Everyone wants to work with bamboo
        • Some people didn’t have the time even though they joined the circle
        • This issue shows u pretty quickly
        • Take space for discernment
        • Passionate, but do you have enough time for bamboo commitment
    • Tommy,
      • Seen similar structure can be observed in MG, in LDBC they call focused groups “squads”
    • Gnomeski is interested and inquired on the Tokenomics aspect
      • Assume you have a Map of land and a list of priorities. What system is LDBC using to track efforts?
        • Regenesis2020: LDBC has discord even in the jungle!
        • They have channels recently that function like our like did-a-thing and give-props
        • Haven’t set up emoji system just yet
        • Have scribes and facilitators as well as milestones
        • Collecting donations in a few different ways
        • Systems set up for making proposals and prioritize those
        • Incorporating conviction voting as well as Sociocratic objection voting
        • They are interested in putting SourceCred on the ground
    • Metadreamer shares some insight on SourceCred:
    • Penguin asks about motivation and how do LDBC rewards volunteers
      • Tien: Kindness of the heart
      • Started work group to get people engaged and getting hands into the land and serve Mama Gaia
      • Over 12k volunteer hours
        • 3k holes dug
        • 3k trees planted
        • Probably something like 10k seeds earthed
    • Misanth asks about how they help people that have a hard time with transitioning from old life?
      • Tien: this is a very important question but they don’t have the answer
        • introduced Sociocratic objections
        • They have ways to help but clearly not all the answers
        • Took him 7 years to transition, personally
          • A lot of spiritual work, financial work, and surrendering of objects
        • Working very hard to find 3 basic channels to answer that question better
          • Desire to create 3 paths, for those that: 1) have got money 2) those with no money but plenty of time 3) those with a little bit of both

ROUNDTABLE

  • Bagholdermcfomo asked whether we actually need NSFW channels after sharing they recently decided severely scale back their participation in this collective space.
    • This kicked off another very intense discussion. For the sake of healing, I will not share any of those notes.
    • However, I will leave you with this if you have made it this far: Violence or threats of any kind will not be tolerated, full stop. Please be you, but always be respectful of the space we share together while we build out our collective future. If you see something unbecoming in any of our various channels (for now) please hit up your closest metabuddy/Innkeeper/Judge/whomever. It looks like @Uranus will head the charge to work through drafting and publishing more specifics and further direction over the coming weeks. Help out if you have constructive input to offer, but don’t snooze on it because we intend to move swiftly. Much love, Metafam!
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MetaGame Community Gathering 2/19/2021

  • Scribe: DefileZebraemphasized text
  • Attendees: mprime, Sparrow, Misanth, dysbulic, Tommy, blairv, scottpreneur, Gnomeski, Ayen, TheLoneRonin (TLR), Bagholder McFomo III, Peth, GeleeRoyale, WhyIdWander, Hoppy, echojuliet, Davor, luxumbra.eth, Dan13ram, Jsimbouras, Uranus, MLIBTY, Michiel, Penguin

Quick-ish summary:

  • Mythology with Sparrow! Links between the brain, heart and gut biome. Impact of Myth in shaping society.
  • Links below about gut health
  • MetaFest vetting ideas to hack on: notion

Agenda:

Mythology with Sparrow

Discussion

  • Mythology with Sparrow!
  • Fascinating topic for Sparrow and encourages questions
  • Mprime helped structure everything and framing this talk
    1. how do you define Mythology? History or Fiction?
    • Sparrow views of myth dovetails with lucid dreaming talk. Intimately connected to dreams and the unconscious
    • Theory about collective unconscious made up of knowledge and imagery that we are born with and is shared through others via symbol, pattern.
    • Myths and symbols are shaped by culture and change over time. Not fixed
    • Overlap and combine and humans weave them into stories that we call mythology
  • Sleep is critical to humans
  • Gut Bacteria links us
  • fulfills a psychological need to connect with unconscious
  • Interaction with the world and myths guide us
  • telling of myths (tend to be oral) helps story come alive
  • myth gives access to connection to dreams
  • Other question from mprime
    • Famous mythological universes and how they are connected
    • Each society throughout time and across the globe has developed their own system of mythology
      • Same kinds of stories
      • There was a time before anything existed
      • why do we all have a need to imagine a time which doesn’t exist?
        • every society has an existence story
        • all have flood stories
        • virgin birth
        • trickster characters that teach in a not so nice way
        • can go around in circles
          • what came first, the myth?
        • What Myths are we as a new society going to create?
          • Gnomeski has started creating the lore
          • Sparrow is fascinated by a new Myth and what we will say about ourselves
        • Last question: Personal favorite myth or story
          • Much overlap across time and space
          • Ragnelle and the Green knight…. similar to the story of Skeleton Woman
            • both are about individual sovereignty and being able to choose your own destiny
            • Led Sparrow into deep examination of choices and how she made them.
              • When she wanted to do something was it internal want, was it what she thought she wanted, what she thought others expected she should want?
            • About there being situation where someone is abhorrent and outcast. Cast aside through one means or another (enchantment in Ragnelle) an act of compassion and kindness coupled with acknowledgement of individual sovereignty changes situation totally and completely. Turns everything on its head and makes everything right again
              • kindness and compassion are necessary but must be coupled with individual sovereignty
              • Really interesting bit about skeleton woman. Fisherman ensnares a skeleton woman in his net. He attempts to flee but is also entangled in the net. Runs back to his Inuit hut. Shuts the door and is breathing heavy and sees that she is still there. He freezes and just watches for a while. (Sparrow notes that that pausing the in the midst of chaos is often the best course of action). After the pause he is curious and he untangles her from the net and observes she is disheveled (leg bone running through the rib cage). He carefully takes each piece back in proper config into a human. Then because he has done the work and was tired and stressed and goes to sleep. In his sleep he has a dream. The story doesn’t say what the dream was about, but it makes him cry. Has a tear on his check. Skeleton woman touches the tear and it gives her life. She sings her own flesh back onto the bone, the hair onto her head. She becomes a complete woman again and then she lies down next to him. The key turning point was because of a dream.
            • Examining the stories and hearing the lessons they are trying to teach allow for discovery and self-improvement
            • Like Metagame Lore and Myths creating now
              • Consider the myth of economies and money
              • before bitcoin people believed in the tangibleness of fiat currency and belief that economy is something real
                • We see now that it really is just a cultural fiction that we all agree is true and it becomes real
                • but we can choose to believe something else
              • Open floor for anyone else that has a favorite Mythology?
                • Gnomeski likes Thor and his hammer (MjĂślnir) He has all these masculine qualities. Loki the trickster is involved and steals hammer. Cant approach the fortress of the gods. Thor has to dress as a woman and is presented as a bride to the giant. At the alter he grabs hammer and smacks giant
              • Tommy, asked to hear more about gut bacteria and neurology
                • more neurons in the gut than the brain
              • Many things have been narrowed since Rene Descartes
              • as many neurons in the heart
                • heart sends more signals to the brain than the brain sends to the heart
                • So the way we imagine our own physiology is not always accurate
  • Blairv
  • Likes how Sparrow links myth building with Sleep
  • Sleep unlocks new ways of thinking
  • how we can we change the system
  • Sparrow: Culture of business and almost pride about lack of sleep
    • worth based on how productive someone is?
    • as a group we are trying to live on less and less sleep and that impacts our ability to make decisions. Brain chemistry and sense of control over your lives.
    • Stay awake for 3-4 days and see how you feel
      • Note that is just an acute situation
      • chronic situation 4/5 hours per night over extended periods of time and the affects accumulate and you don’t even notice. Like a frog in a pot of boiling water.
  • Gnomeski
    • Notes that imagination works hard under sleep deprivation
    • seek consultation under sleep deprivation and forcing unconscious to become visible
    • trapped in insomnia?
  • Sparrow
    • Vision quest is intentional
    • such a powerful tool can be helpful in acute situations
  • Switching gears to MetaFest:
    • is there a place to find people to collaborate with?
    • Mprime has a project idea and is curious about the best place to vet it
      • mprimecan do the backend but looking for someone familiar with javascript libraries for visualization for a micro raid for MetaFest
      • Someone suggested to put it on notion.
      • Propose tackle skill tree with hack/project raid to create a channel where people can post interests and people react
      • This would supply a map of topics and help build a mini skill tree from what’s in the channels
  • Tommy asked Sparrow for resources about gut health:
  • Sparrow shared in the townhall-dump channel:
  • Other hacks in mind for MetaFest?
  • Type forms for MetaFest, everyone is encouraged to fill one out
  • treasure hunt in crypto voxels
    • most of the NFTs are designed
  • Art jam with live minting!
  • day with music and Djs
    • MetaRadio- who is the champion?
  • Raffle tickets
    • for NFTs
    • There will be an NFT puzzle too
  • Prize pool/bounty for hackathon
    • What will be offered?
    • Will discuss more on Monday in Champions Ring
  • The Purge
    • Luxumbra looking for people to help with the purge/executioner
    • Today we have 180/190 players currently and need to get down to 150
    • Tracking in Notion by player
    • What is patronage and what are the benefits?
      • Need a definitive list of benefits
      • page about seed but nothing specific about patrons
    • Add a column to track unique executioners
      • Vanilla helped scrape a user list to support the effort
      • Filtering in notion
  • Uranus: suggested combining Metarrhizal network with player list and roles
    • who is doing what and where?
  • Procedure docs for purge and scribe?
  • Uranus serenades the call!
  • Scam Dms, if you see them in the server please report them
    • we have some walls to minimize autospam
    • be careful
    • tag a judge or hit up online Diamond fam
  • Michiel
    • New developer joining us today!
    • Interested in basic income from data generated
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MetaGame Community Gathering 2/26/2021
• Scribe: defileZebra (DZ)
• Attendees: mprime, alibyte, groovy, Jsimbouras, Misanth, Tommy, Wonfiddy, b0gie, MetaDreamer, TheLoneRonin, Sparrow, Penguin, Peth, Nirv, Metaverde, Davor

Quick-ish Summary:
• Today’s rabbit hole was with WonFiddy on LED based power sports
• Minting an NFT with a huge embedded video file involves crazy gas costs due to data size, even though gas isn’t relatively terrible.

Rabbit Hole:
mPrime brings us to the Rabbit hole with Wonfiddy, today we talk about LED based power sports
• LED power sports is pixel-based tech taking LED and putting them on an array. Staff, chucks, hoops, bands, gloves, all are options. Microlight tech on silicon based PCB.
• Tournaments for cash are extremely demanding on the muscles.
• mPime: Do the lights feel the speed?
o Wonfiddy: Yes, accelerometers.
• Next thing on video was an S-staff
o all based on flow
• Dragon staff.
o Multiple dimensions spinning at the same time
• Power gloving
o Aka Wimp Olympics?
• Mprime: how do the tournaments work?
o Digital submissions with deadline
o Tourney is usually broken up and based around a particular skillset/moveset
o Whip momentums and flail are a couple of examples on the video
• “Glorbiting”
o Orbiting and gloving at the same time
o Like a string with crazy knots with what looks like a gyroscope of light spinning in the middle
• MetaDreamer: So excited for people turning these moves into NFTs
• “Triple show” on video next
o As you might imagine, 3 actors = usually 6 hands.
• WonFiddy serenaded us with beats and lights! So awesome, and I’m sorry if you missed it.
o Will become an NFT series of 10
o Need to sort out some details around minting them and moving them.
o Large video file on chain is mucho gweis
• Video playlist that Wonfiddy curated before putting on a show:
o Visual Poi Staff V4 Maxi - Srikanta Barefoot - Programmable LED staff - YouTube LED Buugeng Manipulation (S-Staff Illusions) - YouTube New Ignis Pixel Dragon Staff - YouTube [T4S] Materia - Whip Olympian Gloving Light Show [EmazingLights.com] - YouTube [AIM] DMT Glorbit Light Show - YouTube ZERO Orbit - Enter the ZERO ft. Koru, Tracer, Dr. Laukai [EmazingLights.com] - YouTube PegboardNerdxNGHTMRE - Superstar (Ft Krewella) | Synergy ft. Jest & Tranquil [EmazingLights.com] - YouTube
Visual Poi Staff V4 Maxi - Srikanta Barefoot - Programmable LED staff - YouTube LED Buugeng Manipulation (S-Staff Illusions) - YouTube New Ignis Pixel Dragon Staff - YouTube [T4S] Materia - Whip Olympian Gloving Light Show [EmazingLights.com] - YouTube [AIM] DMT Glorbit Light Show - YouTube ZERO Orbit - Enter the ZERO ft. Koru, Tracer, Dr. Laukai [EmazingLights.com] - YouTube PegboardNerdxNGHTMRE - Superstar (Ft Krewella) | Synergy ft. Jest & Tranquil [EmazingLights.com] - YouTube

Discussion:
• Defile: What language/tools are used to code the lights?
o Phone for the User-friendly gloves
o OSM does have to be coded. Possibly C++
 Has a USB B interface in the bottom.
 Can tap into the db and program anything!
 Something that is now discontinued :frowning:
 There is a company that Wonfiddy is working with and they are in pre-seed now.
• Lights all connect to a Bluetooth hub that uses to communicate? And programs it through his phone.
• Mprime: micro controller in each light?
o Wonfiddy: Streaming through infrared white light with memory on the chip
• IOT integration from audience?
o Program the audience
o Interactive venues
o AR
• Wonfiddy: “Mocap” (motion Capture- this was a new one for me) is the future of VR
• MD: Nice Mocap suits are like 10-15k…but they are coming down in price
o VR is still missing micro expressions and body language.
o Once we have good motion/face cap will make us feel much more present
• Penguin?: How much are these toys?
o Wonfiddy: Smart gloves retail for around $125. Mid tier around $60 on avg
o Pixel screen staff
 prices are actually increasing.
 6 inches is the smallest one for $599, 10 inch $1500-2k.
 Sky is the limit on custom features and bells and whistles (as much as you can spend)
• Due to the high cost of gas for video NFTs we started talking about layer 2 options like xDai and Matic
• Tommy, shared: https://orchardelica.com/wp/?page_id=58
• MetaDreamer shared nifty.ink for turning drawings into NFTs
• Avagatchi doing stuff next week on matic
o Aavegotchi
• MetaDreamer: Next seed distribution amounts updated after updating weights
o Davors design work still needs an initiative, and likely to continue to be adjusted
o SourceCred
o If no feedback in the next day or two will put the vote on chain
• MD: Eventually we hope to open a liquidity pool on xDai

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Metagame Community Gathering 3/5/2021

• Scribe: DefileZebra
• Attendees: Misanth, mprime, Metaverde, Sparrow, eowulia, dysbulic, TheLoneRonin, luxumbra, Bagholder Mcfomo III, Tommy, , penguin, MLIBTY, VanillaDelphia, Avalon, Peth

Quick-ish summary:
• Misanth led a discussion about Visual Expression

Agenda:
Visual Expression with @Misanth :octopus:!

• Visual Expression with Misanth!
◦ Thinks of Visual Expression as a way you can put things into the world
◦ Example mural of Whale with a bunch of garbage in it
:black_small_square: makes you think
◦ Banksy and imitators
◦ Architecture
:black_small_square: Socialist versus Renaissance Architecture
:black_small_square: Oppressed versus encouraged to express themselves
◦ We watched this together: The Beauty of Visual Expression - YouTube
:black_small_square: Your footprint
◦ MetaVerde: nightmare Elk in Portland
◦ Visual Art can be anything
◦ Penguin: Artists visual style and colors used says a lot about them. Non-Verbal communication can be accomplished with color
◦ Misanth: can really instill a certain emotion through imagery
◦ Saturation in film
◦ frame rates can have impact on creating emotion
◦ CocaCola- experimenting with single frame and selling popcorn.
:black_small_square: Penguin: This can be easily weaponized against us.
• Trust in Realty
• hunger at McD’s
◦ Tommy,: Mentioned a billboard advertisement in Costa Rica for Covid encourage you to stay inside. Body bag with a foot sticking out with a body tag.
◦ VanillaDelphia: EU and Canada cigarette packs
:black_small_square: Sparrow: Studies show that gross image campaign hasn’t made any difference to smokers. Nothing has been more impactful than banning indoor smoking.
◦ Someone mentioned tax increases as a deterrent
:black_small_square: Sparrow pointed out that if a Government really cared about health it could make smoking illegal full stop. They won’t do it because of money, the loss of tax revenue.
:black_small_square: Bagholder: How unattractive those photos were had them keeping smokes in the pocket instead of out on the table. Wonders if that influenced habits, out of sight out of mind?
:black_small_square: Penguin: Visual imagery attached to cigarette packs can have more impact on those around them versus the smoker. “Daddy is that going to happen to you?” That has impact.
:black_small_square: Bagholder: Ostracization. Self-exile could have additional impacts for the smoker.
:black_small_square: Tobacco companies using color instead of “light”, blue now equals light.
:black_small_square: MetaVerde: On the topic of Color, example from Antique Road Show. Dyed black curtain. A famous Quilt making machine at some point went into a phase of dying everything black.
◦ VanillaDelphia
:black_small_square: Masters of communication through architecture were the Soviets.
◦ Misanth: When does a meme become propaganda?
:black_small_square: Or is it from the start?
:black_small_square: Metaverde: What isn’t propaganda anyway?
:black_small_square: Penguin: anything trying to change a way of thinking is propaganda
◦ Car Accident/Death Memorials
:black_small_square: Communicates to others that this is a dangerous section of road
:black_small_square: Happens organically, there was no campaign
◦ Tommy,: Costa Rica has the ‘~Mountain of Death’. Not because of cars. Coffee transport to the Ocean and was very dangerous.
◦ Misanth: if everything is propaganda, all we can do is pick who we want to brainwash us.
◦ Penguin: power of images. In donut economics discusses that pictures are infinitely more impactful than words. Original econ books had no pictures.
◦ (I missed the speaker here) You don’t have to passively accept what propaganda you accept. You can choose what you take in visually and orally, and how it affects you. More complicated than food, bit esoteric but this can be worked on.
◦ News is often simply trying to induce a reaction
◦ Misanth plays the Promo video with sound!
◦ Other videos shared in townhall during the discussion about Visual Communication:
:black_small_square: Color Theory in Film — Color Psychology for Directors: Ep5 - YouTube
:black_small_square: The Heart Of The World - Guy Maddin - YouTube
:black_small_square: THANK YOU (2018) | Award Winning Short Film | Shot on GH5 - YouTube

Discussion:
• Bagholder: After a few days off, coming back to discord and feels disconnected. Idea to help combat this by something. Memey weekly newsletter in a single image as a weekly update.
◦ Visual explainer. Similar to chainlog but for discussions.
◦ Maybe we should have a Dedicated lurker role that does an update like this.
◦ Vanilla: Proposed a scribe for each house?
◦ DefileZebra: This really sounds like Champions Ring.
◦ Sparrow and Uranus working on metarizal network and that will be a big help
• Penguin answers some questions about Champions Ring
◦ Monday meeting and sync up with leaders
◦ task and leadership based rather than playing the game
◦ mprime: Champions Ring is accessible to anyone if they can commit to lead a project
◦ Penguin: These leadership roles are often taken rather than given.
• Bagholder: Observed that embassies are top position in the discord but there is not much communication through them.
• Penguin: Bridging with embassies could be more effectively used
◦ Would have to post messages in each guild one at a time rather than like an announcement
◦ We are limited to just 10 announcement channels by discord
◦ after MetaFest we can look at potentially reconfiguring webhooks to allow announcements to scale.
• When it comes to Discord and structure there are plenty of opportunities to improve
◦ Still the same human capital and still limited by our availability

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Interesting.
It looks like this must be the place.

MetaGame Weekly Gathering 4/2/2021

  • Scribe: defileZebra ( DZ )

  • Attendees: Lady Xenaida, Misanth, Bagholder Mcfomo III, mprime, penguin, Tommy, Alireza, Sparrow, Mr, Squanch, kn00t, Phung Nhu Thien Nhan, Michiel, Bau, MLIBTY, Peth, Night

Quick-ish Summary:

  • Lady Xenaida Serenades us, if you missed it keep an eye out for the recording or catch her performance today (4/3) at 6p PST here: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Legendary/218/51/1702
  • Hackathon deadline still coming, if you aren’t working on something yet….jump in and see if you can help someone in the #looking-for-group channel

The show begins:

  • Into the Rabbit Hole with Lady Xenaida!
    • Lives in Canada, singer-songwriter, performer, ukuleleist, circus, teacher
    • Loves music from 1920s
    • Old growth trees 2000 years old are now being harvested
    • Started playing guitar at 14 but on 7/12/2012 uke put in hand and it and fit perfect! Being 4’9’ the ukulele was just the right size
    • Was doing Burlesque cabarets monthly as well as festivals and parties
    • Stepped away from burlesque to focus on family and education
      • Big kid and likes working with kids
  • Here is my attempt to capture the playlist:
    • Tiptoe through the Tulips
    • Day-O
    • Save Me From Myself, Original
    • Let it Go, Original
    • Dreams
    • Eagles Nest
    • Fecovalee (in French-that is certainly not how its spelled) means “I am meant to fly”
      • Penguin parle français
    • Rainbow Warriors
    • A cover, but I didn’t catch the name
    • Catholic School Girl
  • Lady Xenaida’s Link tree: https://linktr.ee/lady_zenaida?fbclid=IwAR1oHIOFtqb2ALwIM334JjGulw4MZsnRhqywqUVvaOHLq83eeko7AaUwiUs
  • Has a show tomorrow in VR in second life
  • Lady Xenaida asked if anyone is familiar with Terra Zero
    • Bought forest
    • Forrest is its own landlord!
  • Interested in NFTs
    • Penguin volunteered to help
  • Discussing virtual venue spaces
    • Can sent money in sansar
    • Altspace can link to outside banner
  • Has a thing anticipated in the next few weeks! Very excited but cant share beyond that just yet.
  • Recently discovered and wanted to share “Meta Cycles”
    • time management tool to achieve goals within 6 mo time block…still learning

Discussion

  • Penguin reported that we have ironed out some account issues
    • Davor and Bagsie all set
    • Acemart registered under different name supersenior SC didn’t recognize name change
  • Scavenger hunt?
    • Is over?
    • Not sure anyone has solved it yet
    • Michiel spent a lot of time looking and found 4 clues
  • Lady Xenaida has been thinking about scavenger hunt in the form of some combination of pokemon go and geocaching claim crypto if solving puzzle
    • Michiel says something similar exists….Wenano exists
  • Hackathon stuff
    • Are you working on something for the hackathon?
      • If not, hop into the #-looking-for-group channel under MetaFest in the discord
    • Taco coin exists and Salsa is what you farm
    • Taco wiki?
    • Tommy will create a dao on Daohaus and then mint songs on Cheivmint
    • For Meta Merch- No minimum orders and print on demand and drop ship
      • Screen printing has min order tho
  • Language lesson: How to order a taco in Croatia?
    • Can I have a taco?
      • Moje yete taco?
    • Wheres the taco truck?
      • Deeya cameones tacosima?
    • Waiting for a taco for along time
      • Deaya thai taco Korats?
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MetaGame Community Gathering 4/9/2021

  • Scribe: defileZebra ( DZ )

  • Attendees: Misanth, mprime, peth, Gnomeski, Xenaida, Tommy, Bagholder Mcfomo III, Dysbulic, Fearless Thompson

Updates:

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Community Gathering

4/23/2022

Attendees: Bagholder MCfomo III, Dysbulic, Kyle Stargarden.io Luxumbra.eth, Misanth, Gnomeski, DecentralizeMe777, Night, Peth, Motoma, mprime, MaseDCLR, YoungKidWarrior, RobTobbas, Tommy, , Tatey180, craig, penguin, Dew, eris, miir, Lucas

  • Welcome Motoma!
    • Came to Metagame from TEF and MetaCartel
  • Today’s rabbit hole: Super Smash brothers with Night
  • Night is a big fan and has been playing for 2 years
  • Slippy is online client
    • Named after frog from Starfox
  • Why fan?
    • Melee is 2nd in series came out in 2000
    • Can be played quickly and expressively bc of game engine
    • Combos are creative and free flowing
    • Blindingly fast
    • Cannot queue commands
    • No input buffers
    • Wait for the end of a move before to starting the next
    • Analogous to real fighting in that playing from backfoot gets sloppy
    • Not on console but emulating in slippy with faster melee
  • Dashing around and shooting in/baiting
  • How to combat cheating?
    • Some client side hacks that could be seen as cheating
  • Controllers
    • Can spend 200-300 controller
    • Box controller b0xx.com
      • All buttons, no stick
        • Controversial, but too late to ban it
      • Access angles
        • Combo 4 buttons to pick from 48 angles
    • Modded controllers is a big thing
      • File analog sticks, shorten triggers
  • Most players stick with the same handful of characters for tournaments
    • Several notable players kick butt with non-traditional tournament characters like Yoshi
  • Reminded someone of Bullet chess
    • Very fast
  • There is a 7 frame window to cancel lag on arial recovery
    • Missing this window is like being tired in a fight
  • Melee players love their game
    • YoungKidWarrior would wake up at 5am to practice once upon a time
    • Penguin last job had smash days
    • “#save Melee”
  • Frame rates continue to improve
  • Miir joined late but had some questions
    • Wants to create a game that helps people do self-development
    • Use smart contract to incent people to self-develop
    • Closed play testing
    • Hope to have small onboarding
    • Landmark
      • Structures
      • Distinctions
      • Gamify those concepts
    • On discord, but no website
  • Shenanigans discord focused on Melee community
  • Tools suggested for learning Solidity
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Community Call 4/30/2021

Attendees : Bagholder Mcfomo III, Chair, CryptoTreeLab, Davor, FearlessThompson, Gnomeski, Luxumbra.eth, MaseDC3LR, Mettodo, Misanth, mprime, Night, papasmurf, penguin, rootdraws, scottrepreneuer, tommy, MagnetarStar, Kyle Stargarden, Peth, Dysbulic, oiou_crh, CMD Burrito, keepitsane, Mitarai, sel, kingsdami.eth, carlfartson, Wonfiddy.eth

Rabbit Hole: A Look at Notion

  • Chair on using Notion:
    • Notion can substitute Jira and Nethub
    • Just type “/board” for a fresh Kanban
    • Can manage entire team and entire project with it
    • For daily- use day log archive or todo lists
    • Also uses bullet journal
  • Penguin
    • Mix between webpage, datastore/database
    • Kanban view is really powerful
    • One challenge is that it’s not obvious what you can and cannot do
      • Permissions are one of the trickiest parts and one of the biggest pain points
      • Add individual by email to give permissions to edit rather than giving everyone permission
  • Calendar view
    • Difficult to collaborate on calendar and the team eventually used Google sheets for MetaFest coordination efforts
  • Powerful ways to view

Discussion

  • Player onboarding work is going well
    • FearlessThompson made some awesome one page info graphics
    • social contracts and game etiquette/Crediquette
  • Wednesday there was an AMA with MetaDreamer
    • 3 hours of sourcecred knowledge was dropped
    • 1 hour technical deep dive
    • Link posted in Seed minting for the session, thanks for recording Penguin!
    • Claim button is not working right now. Seed calc has been done but mint needs to go through Aragon voting proposal. DAO proposal has a 3-day timer….so will be some candles pass before mint
  • Merkle claim contract
    • MD did work behind the scenes
    • Claim.metagame.wtf has the data for mint but no seeds yet!
  • Rootdraws asks- Why not xDai?
    • current DAOs/Liquidity Pool are setup on mainnet
  • Penguin
    • Polygon and xdai will be doing a lot this year
  • When Openseas supports sidechains whether an NFT was minted on mainnet is likely to matter less
  • Penguin had a ton of joy with NFTs at MetaFest
  • University Diploma/House Deed as an NFT?
    • theft?
  • This spawned an in-depth discussion of NFTs that I have to imagine continued long after I had to drop…
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Community Gathering 07 May 2021

Attendees: Bagholder Mcfomo III, bends, DefileZebra, FearlessThompson, Luxumbrea.eth, manu, metaverde, Michiel, mprime, Misashi13, Night, penguin, pronoia, rliriano, Tatey180, verhovn, White Chocolate, Kyle Stargarden, Misanth, peth, inu, dysbulic

Quick Summary:

  • Musashi13 joins us and discusses ecovillages, home-free living and shares their vision to build an artist’s collective
  • Survey from Night about how players use interfaces

Rabbit hole/Discussion:

  • Musashi13
    • Was once a missionary in Haiti
    • Returned to the US and was home-free
      • What is value?
      • What is a jewel?
      • Time, space, and energy
    • Travel opening eyes to the world
    • Woofing
      • World organic farming opportunities
      • Trade time on farm for place to stay and food to eat and place to sleep
      • Self-sustainable living
      • Find self-sustainable eco villages
        • More of an intentional mindset
      • Looking for ones just starting
      • Loves to build infrastructure
    • Home free for 15 years
  • Crypto> defi> avagotchi to MetaGame
  • Moved to tokensmart
  • Now Metafactory
  • Art-vatars
  • Wealth gap will be created by communities
    • Social structure where you buy a token and eventually buy more and more will create a wealth gap, but we should be figuring out how to get away from this
  • Build an artists collective in metaverse
    • Has some vision and wants to share them with the community
    • Keep an eye out for presentation
    • Name still tbd
    • Ticket project and charity project
  • Putting solar on ambulance home
    • Mobile recording unit and metalab
    • Oculus
    • New computer and mic
    • Books on libernet
  • Meta astronaut building spaceship?
  • Michiel (mickeww) joins us after finding MetaFest
    • Previously was a freelance web dev
    • Was looking to do something different and cancelled office space and was sitting at home
    • Uses a wheelchair, so some things can be more complicated
      • g. Healthcare
    • Thinking about how things need to change and DAO is very interesting
      • AI
      • Crypto
      • Collecting your own data and UBI from that data
    • Strong desire for change and stumbled on Metagame during MetaFest
      • Identified with writing in Wiki
    • Still looking for space to contribute
  • Penguin suggests that the best way to integrate is to be loose with expectations
    • Somewhere between a job and a social group
    • Look at github
    • Easier to kick it in the voice channels
      • If you see a call, drop in and listen!
    • How to metagame better?
      • Read the whole wiki
  • Welcome Bends
    • Found website
    • New to discord same in TEC
    • Watched MetaFest recordings
    • Attending on a lunch break from the Data Science type job
  • Mprime proposes new subjects for future community calls
    • Not a single person but a different general topic
    • 1st How to/do you Organize personal knowledge collaboration session
    • 2nd Security
      • What are some best practices?
    • Penguin suggests topic for next week
      • Tax person?
  • Dashboard TEC review tomorrow May 8 @ 10 PST, 17 UTC
  • Manu joining us from Patagonia
    • Manu started drafting 3d Octo
    • Will host a session at some point
  • Survey to understand how people are using systems that exist from Night
    • What are people going to the most?
  • Better onboarding raid should wrap in the next few weeks
    • Big props to FearlessThompson from both Penguin and Kyle

Community Gathering 14 May 2021

Attendees: Bagholder Mcfomo II, DefileZebra, Fruitcake, Manu, metaverde, michiel, mprime, Tatey180, Tommy, Peth, penguin, verhovn, SparklesTheHero

Summary:

  • We speculate on the recently published VB token (contract linked below)
  • Rank awards for Season 1 are minted, thanks Penguin and Misanth!

Discussion :

Community Meeting 28 May 2021

Attendees: Bagholder Mcfomo III, FearlessThompson, metaverde, penguin, rootdraws, Vyvy-vi, Misanth, taxil, White Chocolate. Msg.sender, Mercutio, David (please DYOR…), bends, ikonoklast, talent, mushashi13, ImLucky, Dave

Summary :

  • We did not really have a specific topic and missed mprime guiding us to new rabbit holes. This was really just a 2+ hour discussion.
  • Check Townhall dump for miles of memes from 5/27. Feel free to scroll through it, but I am sorry that you missed listening to Misanth laughing vigorously upon discovering memes he had missed while we scrolled through and enjoyed them together.
  • We welcomed a few newer characters, and there was extensive discussion on managing creative assets and licensing.

Discussion
We started with some good ole Satoshi speculation. Could CSW be the last living member of a collective? Or could it be Penguin?

  • Pwn to own annual competition
    • Whatever you hack you keep
    • Many new 0day

Should we have a live pentesting demo?

  • Mprime’s security call

    • Fearless was bummed to miss this
    • Someone shared that they compartmentalize many of their PCs
    • What you can do when what you use gets compromised?
    • Nmaps and targeted nmaps
      • Metasploit knows what is typically open
  • Trimming the day4 video

    • Joel dissected Ceramic for us in 30 minutes during MetaFest!
  • Townhall dump was meme’d for hours yesterday and we scrolled through some of it together

    • Direct quote: “Durgadas memed the crap outta me yesterday”
    • File formats:
      • Webm….no.
      • Use .mp4 over .gif
      • Just use .mp4
  • Welcome VyVy-vii

    • Via Robot Army
    • Has some experience with the bots and stuff
  • Taxil aka Andrew

    • Professional journo based in brooklyn
  • Fearless-

    • Memes and narratives
    • Eths narrative
      • It’s a great tech but doesn’t have one strong narrative
  • Rootdraw

    • Not as fun as doge or safemoon
    • Settlement layer for traditional banks
    • Once major institutions enter will raise the floor bc operating costs
    • Print more usd
  • Bagsie- Major bank on AAVE?

    • “Give us 2M to play on defi…”
    • Software doing the job to replicate the services of banks
    • AAve and binance smart chains look like defi but are centralized
    • Trouble caused by lines we draw
      • Children born to parents of different nationalities
  • Rootdraws- Is a painter and is interested in Creative assets

    • Once CC0 commons licensing
    • What does marketing and fundraising look like?
    • What does interconnected collaboration look like?
    • CCBY4.0 for their own work
    • CC0 and get on gitcoin
  • Bagsie

    • Derivative works expand the brand!
  • Misanth

    • Sushi locking some of code in next version to avoid sauce being stole
  • Bagsie

    • More workers than there are gigs driving pay down
    • won’t use uber eats, doesn’t perceive any benefit to spending more for less and waiting longer
    • Projects on Binance smart chain have either the scummiest or most altruistic do-gooders
      • Also, best place for predatory scammers
  • Scribe had to drop around the 2 hour mark.

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